I never really thought about the automatic self upvote on Reddit and Lemmy. But after reading this article Dont let me like my own post, i’m wondering if we should just get rid of it. Its not really adding anything, or does it? Plus removing it would slightly simplify the code, and slightly less federation messages would get sent (probably unnoticable in practice).
the cool thing about automatic self upvote is that nobody need to feel arrogant for voting own content. so I think automatic upvote or no ability to self vote are both fine (but I kinda like how score starts at +1)
I think we should remove it, and it would also provide an extra way to distinguish your post / comment as it would not have arrows.
That said, I think whatever you post should still start at 1. Things starting at 0 is a programming thing that should not carry over to real life, and personally I am used to seeing something with a score of zero as bad or negative (likely the same for most other people). The assumption that you approve of your own post is a reasonable one I think.
Some people are suggesting to disable self votes, but start posts/comments at 1 point. I think thats a great idea, because it would also help Pleroma/Mastodon users. Those cant send votes, so they currently start at 0 points.
Of course we need. Otherwise you have to fight with “downvoted” perception.
I personally don’t think it’s an issue.
Yes, thats why i posted it here and not on github :)
i personally prefer the stackexchange model of default being 0 and no self upvotes.
but in general as long as it’s consistent i suppose it doesn’t matter an awful lot.
I agree. A nice way to resist spam bots would be to restrict voting to accounts with some sort of threshold reached (whatever that is), just like on stackexchange.
IMO it’s worth having it auto-upvoted. Who posts something and then downvote themselves anyway? Or another option would be to disable the ability to vote on your own submissions, to be as “impartial” and fair as possible?
I downvote myself (or at least un-upvote myself) sometimes for a few reasons.
One, if I’ve made a mistake or been persuaded by another’s response.
Two, if I see another response that is better or more important than mine and I think theirs should be above mine (or mine below).
I don’t really see the point of voting on your own posts. I’d be happy to get rid of it.
I don’t like the point of voting (both upvoting and downvoting) your own posts/comments. As some say it’s better to start with 1 when you post/comment. Simplifies the code and simplifies the user interface, improving the experience.
Or start with zero and don’t allow voting on one’s own posts at all. The whole idea of voting is getting the community’s opinion after all
Yes thats how i imagined it, should have made that clearer.
I’d still say start at 1, I think maybe seeing the 1 might motivate people less to make alt accounts to upvote themselves?
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I just want to see the UI of Lemmy better follow the laws of proximity
If there is no self upvote, then there should also be a negative integer vote counter.
I think we do need them because its s pain to have to manually upvote your own stuff anytime you do anything (its the same on minds were you have to upvote manually which is so annoying)
I wouldn’t have care if it was the case from the start ( the point I had started using Lemmy) coz I would’ve accepted it as a feature. Yet now if devs would remove it, I know, I’d be a bit upset.