I was recently thinking about buying an elecrtic scooter/bike to get from point A to point B, with everything so close in a city, and traffic being bad. What are your thoughts on cycle-lanes, and cycling/scooting in general?
I was recently thinking about buying an elecrtic scooter/bike to get from point A to point B, with everything so close in a city, and traffic being bad. What are your thoughts on cycle-lanes, and cycling/scooting in general?
Don’t forget about people who need to drive cars.
The old and weak, people with young (or many) children, people trying to carry a lot of shopping, people who have a long daily commute…
Don’t make life even more difficult for them.
The design of the city can reduce the ‘need’ to drive a car to zero. Small shops in every neighbourhood, schools within walking distance, public transit that gets you everywhere etc. There are many cities in the world where less than 10% of the population use a car.
That’s the 10% I’m talking about!
It sounds easy, until you walk a mile in their shoes. For many many people, you just need to use a car. For example, I know less than ten people on my road.
These are just examples from a very small sample size. Think how many other cases there are. You have to accommodate people who live differently from you.
That means you live in a city not designed for everyone and nor is every trip accessible by walking. Have a look at the old city of Fes, and tell me that you need a car to do those trips? Take a look at Istanbul. People have lived in large cities without a car for centuries. Supermarkets are not a prerequisite for living in a city. Similarly, children, the elderly, people with disabilities can be accommodated easily without cars. For example, the social environment can make a big difference, such as support from family and neighbours.
I admit that these children are all quite young, but starting from age 6, children should be able to cycle by themselves. (Note: this opinion is from a Dutch perspective)
I’m not against cars by the way, you could own a car and several bikes. Use the bike when possible and the car for everything else.
Yes, it could work, if the town is flat, and you never need to go more than a few miles. Or if there’s a very good and fast bus network and you can carry bikes on the bus.
For example, somewhere i used to live, it had a free bus for the decrepit and old, that went around the whole town and passed every house. So if you wait long enough, the bus will take to your destination, door to door.
But even then, there will still be a few people who need their own cars.
The diagram includes a bus. Good public transit goes a long way.
Don’t forget poor cardrivers implies ALL the time “forgett ALL others”.
“Everyone must take care” always implues in discussions “go away fucking cyclists, pedestrisns and public trnsport. Let us cardriver get the whole city”.
That’s just a perspective that could only make sense in a culture I’ve never met. In all the places I’ve ever lived, most people use most modes of transport - cars, bicycles, buses, trains, and foot. There are no “cardrivers” versus “pedestrians” versus “passengers” versus “cyclists”.
Sounds like you have bigger problems than just bike-lanes can solve.
You never lived in vienna/austria. Am i right? You never had discussions with ÖAMTC, FPÖ, SPÖ or ÖVP-People? You never hat discussions about new cycle-lanes vs parking-space in an austrian town like vienna, linz or graz? You never hat discussions about own lanes for bus or tramway in one of this cities?
What’s it like in Vienna? Sounds this issue is quite politically-charged and polarised.
It reminds me of how people approached the issue ten or twenty years ago.
Hopefully the Viennese will get over that stupid argument, like other peoples already have.
Virnns is always 20 years late… 😐