At least for me its very difficult to make the line between preventing hate speech and allowing the freedom. I’m thinking to launch a lemmy instance, but the targeted audience is very sensitive to religion topics, and i’m sure if i allow it, this could lead to hate speech at some point and may fuel violence. Also, from my prospective, i just want my audience find new good things far from porn, porn sites are a lot, and i don`t want to mix it with other topics that can very constructive.

So please tell me your opinion, if banning these 2 topics can effect the freedom of speech.

  • @DPUGT2@lemmy.ml
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    02 years ago

    Yes. But that’s what you want, to suppress freedom of speech. I think I can explain…

    If you said “will I be picking my nose if I root around in my nostril with a finger, digging for those big squishy boogers that just feel so orgasmic when you yank them out”, then what we can conclude from the question is that you want to pick your nose but you are publicly embarrassed by the thought of doing anything that might give others clues that you do indeed like picking your nose.

    You’ve never truly felt that picking your nose is wrong, or disgusting. But others make it clear that they believe it to be disgusting, and so you are forced to go along with everyone else in the pretense that picking noses is disgusting. But you just can’t help yourself.

    And so it is with freedom of speech. You don’t believe in it as a principle. There are times when it is mostly benign (when people are saying things you agree with, or that are convenient and entertaining to hear). But past that, you can’t see much utility in it. In your brain, some heuristic is telling you that it’s much more likely to ban speech you find offensive, inconvenient, or just noisome than it is to ban your speech (especially in the circumstances you outline). And so, you’ve already made up your mind.

    But how do you prevent people from pointing at you and shrieking “he just picked his nose!”?

    So please tell me your opinion, if banning these 2 topics can effect the freedom of speech.

    Because you’ll pick some moderators to “help with the workload”. At least one of them will be a jackass. He’ll claim things that aren’t religion are, banhammer that person, and you’ll be forced to agree with him that white is black and wet is dry, because there’s nothing worse than having authority questioned when it is your authority and you’re not personally harmed by it. When it becomes a public relations fiasco.

    From that point forward, the definition scope creep of “religion” has been established, and it can go anywhere it needs to protect your turf. You won’t be doing that personally, there will always be that disconnect so that you have some plausible deniability. And to you, it won’t even look like this. You are a reasonable person, after all. Everyone else is just attacking you because of how awesome you are. Because they are trolls. And you will curl up all cozy in your echo chamber, knowing that the people who still remain all agree with you.

    • @jay91@lemmy.mlOP
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      12 years ago

      Thanks for taking the time to write all this, its not about me, i dont follow any religion, so i dont mind, what i care about the most is, this will not fuel things could lead to harming people. I’m not banning this because i dont like religion, i dont like or not this is not anything of my business but i fear that my instance will turn into bigger problem far from the web.