I’ve also cross-posted this post on other third-party apps’ subs:
EDIT: Forgot to write a bit of an introduction of myself, hello to everyone here, long time redditor and someone who also happens to mod a lot of subs on reddit such as r/electricvehicles, r/trulyunpopularopinion and etc!
Though I love to moderate and contribute to this communities meaningfully, I never liked reddit, as a huge FOSS fan, and these recent API changes are freaking stupid as well, there wasn’t a better reason for me to not consider moving to Lemmy. I will be speaking with a lot of other reddit mods in my own mod teams and some other friends, hopefully I can bring some subs/people here.
Speaking of bringing people, please do consider checking out these posts I’ve linked above, and consider upvoting them if you agree, this situation with third-party apps are a great opportunity for Lemmy, hopefully it reaches to the devs, and even if not all apps make a move, even one would be a win.
Thank you!
EDIT 2: Hey guys! I missed some third party apps on the list above, just updated them, and the new added ones are RIF, Joey, Get Narwhal and RedReader. UPDATE: Added ReddPlanet.
Please do consider visiting those that I just added and upvote them, so hopefully they can reach to respective developers!
The reluctance of redditors to move to lemmy always amazes me.
Not surprisingly, there’s a lot of posts in a lot of subs about the recently announced changes. In every post the same pattern is repeated ad-nauseum:
This is the case even in the subs I would have thought would be really keen to jump ship, like /r/selfhosted
I think this type of approach is the right idea though, a better ecosystem can only be good.
“but there’s no users on lemmy”
It’s definitely a chicken and the egg situation.
I’ve been lurking here the past few days when I saw lemmy as a reddit alternative. I decided to sign up today as lurking isn’t doing this place any favors. Hopefully more people will sign up, and the momentum will build and continue.
It’s a chicken and egg problem for sure, but what I find a bit funny in every case like this (Reddit -> Lemmy, Twitter -> Mastodon, etc) is when someone says “X doesn’t have any users!” it makes me want to reply with something like:
These companies think they (and unfortunately in a lot of cases, are) too big to fail, if there was a competitor out there that had another sizable slice of the pie, then I doubt they’d be making idiotic changes like this nonsense over the API.
I know that this is just how the network effect works, but it does make me laugh for a moment every once in a while.
It’s obvious that reddit had someone run the stats on what percentage of users would abandon the site completely and who would bite the bullet and eventually migrate over to their app. Obviously there must be more potential earnings with whatever projected percentage of users actually swallow their pride and use their app. All that Metadata must be worth a fortune to them.
I’ve been on lemmy for about a year, and this is the first time I’ve seen lemmy this consistently active.
It actually reminds me of reddit in the earlier years :')
I’ve been on it less than a week, and I can already notice an uptick in user activity.
Things seem to be progressing well.
Its funny to me that those of us posting viable alternatives in those threads get drowned out by doomerism (there’s nothing we can do!!!). There are alternatives out there to reddit, and they’re already better experiences.
It’s really baffling. Especially because there are some solid but really small communities that would have a fairly easy time migrating but are still not even considering doing so because of the small userbase over here. These communities don’t even benefit from the bigger userbase on reddit because the discussions are solely between the users that are subbed to the subreddits.
Hmm I think that normally it is legit hard to move a community to a new server/system. Even a small one. It was tried with a german subreddit to feddit.de and it failed.
Right now there’s a lot of momentum, probably because reddit fucked up.
I don’t expect the average person to move to Lemmy but I do think they’re silly for criticizing it for it’s low userbase when they themselves could be the users that populate it, currently this place has 2k (if I’m in the right space) people who’ve at least checked the site out.
If anything it should be easier considering there’s a boost like reddit client for Android on the app store currently.
Yea, a real mass exodus will probably not happen, but I would love it if at least a sizable community can grow out of it. There are a couple of smaller subreddits I would rather not abandon if they don’t jump ship but if I can get the rest of my “content needs” from Lemmy I’d gladly take away from my reddit browsing time to come here instead.
If Mastodon teaches us anything it’s not about the size of the community but the engagement. If we end up with smaller, but more engaged, groups here and elsewhere in the fediverse then we’re in for a good time!
Which German subreddit was tried to move?
reddit.com/r/dachschaden. But I think the move wasn’t to feddit.de, sorry. It was to a server that doesn’t exist anymore, 161.social. It never caught on I think.
Too bad…seems like the kind of community that would rather not be on reddit after the IPO. Ideology wise I mean. But seeing that 161.social is dead now it definitely raises the question if staying was the better move. But I guess that’s the point. If you don’t get everyone to move then the alternative will likely die sooner or later.
161.social never had any active users, that was the problem I think. They tried mirroring some posts form the dachschaden sub, but that didn’t attract anyone.
I see. I’m looking forward to how Lemmy does in the future. Even with the disruptive changes to reddit it’s hard to imagine a real mass exodus happening. But a semi sizable community might be enough to at least split my browsing habits between Lemmy and reddit.
Lemmy is just the latest in a very long line of potential reddit successors. Historically, you can’t move a subreddit to a different platform because redditors are users of reddit, not users of your particular subreddit.
This is true, but of course individuals can choose to move.
This may not be a warm fuzzy thing to say, but I don’t feel much of a “community” in reddit subs.
What I mean is that to me, 100 people reading a sub on lemmy once a week is just as useful as 1000 people reading a sub on reddit once a month. As in, I don’t really care if the specific users from a reddit sub are here, just that there are some engaged users here.
undefined> “but there’s no users on lemmy”
I mean that’s a reasonable point. The amount of users is always important for a platform adaptation. But I see a good chance for Lemmy if/when Reddit removes/restricts all porn subs… IF there’s a place for it in Lemmy.
There’s no users on Lemmy?
Then who are you people!?
Maybe you’re just developing schizophrenia
We are you and you are us
The voices of the abyss join us
I suspect there will be specific servers/communities that support that content.
I’ve yet to see one. It’s one of the handful of things that don’t exist yet on Lemmy that I’d actually miss from reddit. There’s a few speciality subs that don’t have any parallels on here but there’s nothing stopping that content though. Porn on the other hand seems to be universally banned on every Lemmy instance I’ve ever seen. I guess moderating that content is just too much of a headache for most people.
I think it’s exactly that no one wants the headache of moderating that. But I’m certain someone will spin up an instance that allows it as soon as Reddit bans it.
Yep, plus I can only imagine just how worse that headache would be for whomever is probably the first to offer it.
Maby the change to come regarding NSFW or 18+ content is the trigger a lot of people need.
If the cards are played well it could aggregate a lot of people. In regards to mature content in general not only “porn” orientated.
They all say they’re leaving, they never do.
They also keep asking for an alternative or wonder “why hasn’t an alternative popped up already since it’s been going downhill for so long”. And then you mention Lemmy (among others) and they immediately say “yeah, but no one’s there”. And they don’t seem to be getting it.
@SineNomineAnonymous @dogmuffins EXACTLY, I was on Reddit saying the exact same thing yesterday, why don’t people just start using that better alternative ( that doesn’t target them with intrusive ads ) but when FB first started out, I remember everyone was asking how to sign up, ( they didn’t think no one is using it ), I think “follow the crowd” mentality is the problem when it comes to mass adoption :rickdrink:
I think they just don’t want to change what they got used to. Having an excuse then makes it easier to stay where you are, hoping that circumstances get better. Basically typical conservative behavior that lives in most of us.
@penguintech1 @SineNomineAnonymous @dogmuffins Yall just have to start posting replies to everyone Lemmy’s comments to make it seem like everyone is moving over lol.
@Zach777 @SineNomineAnonymous @dogmuffins 😭
It just makes me roll my eyes, they act like it’s all so hard to join or leave, when really it isn’t. When tumblr had it’s nsfw ban, I joined reddit. Now that Tumblr is recovering, I rejoin with a new account. When reddit is having it’s api exodus, I join lemmy. All you need is an email and a username, the rest is up to you.
The only real concerns that are in the list are:
The wiki (which could just be a simple copy-paste), though I wouldn’t like Lemmy communities to be exact copies of the subreddits. There’s many gripes I have with certain subs that should be avoided with Lemmy. As for data, if there’s information you think is important to keep, share it. Find communities to share that info with, create ones if there isn’t one for the certain thing you want to share. Don’t just keep it hanging on reddit. As tvtropes says, keep circulating the tapes.
Splitting the community could be an issue, but a lot of subreddits simply AREN’T community based anymore. I can honestly only think of maybe three off hand that still feel like a community. One of which is only so due to it’s somewhat more active discord server.