I’m not a Mastodon/etc. users but I can sympathize with some other sites. Even here has its own Ongoing September from redditors.
I would recommend reaching out to moderation teams and raising awareness, because they probably have far more ability to put global notifications or sign-up messages, and to give warnings to uncomfortable behaviour.
Make sure to call out twitter carryover, in a constructive way, so that people are aware that Mastodon isn’t ‘twitter but here’.
Please the report feature to bring up troublesome users (or if really necessary, the lemmy.ml community), this community is for the software called Lemmy.
It’s counterproductive to conflate racism, homophobia and transphobia with fascism.
They’re all disgusting behaviors. Make no mistake, they’re all mindless, anti-social, and dangerous. However lumping them into the term fascism trivializes what makes fascism in particular dangerous or appealing to its audience, it falsely suggests that fascism without those traits, a national fascism rather than a racial fascism (which is indeed what some fascists propose) isn’t reprehensible, and makes people who have seen a defintion of fascism think it’s just an ignorant slur just like calling any queer person a liberal, which will make people just not listen.
You don’t have to be one to be the other. They’re all horrible. Don’t pretend their problem is being a fascist; their problem is being a racist anti-queer idiot.
Well, how do the admins here define ‘leftist’?
That’s actually a major part of my post. We can’t recommend a better idea without knowing your own definition because ‘leftist’ is just so ambiguous. That’s why it’s a problem. If I know how you define it, I can suggest a few alternatives.
Well, that’s something that needs to be resolved, sooner is better than later, or it will lead to more drama later. Are you using your staff position to enforce personal opinions/preferences, or are you taking the role of a moderator enforcing site rules?
The 4 site rules here (especially #2) seem clear to me that people shouldn’t be banned merely for their supposed personal opinions, or what they do elsewhere.
Yeah, I hesitated to mention Mastodon and Pleroma as I don’t know the policies on character limits (I suspect it can change per site???)
Link aggregators (like Lemmy and reddit) are weird in that they’re literally invented for the purpose of linking to other sites, like you suggested you would do on Mastodon, but it’s become normal in the past 10 years to make text posts and start uploading media directly on the site. It’s an interesting shift. I guess that’s why I wasn’t sure to recommend it for blogging: you totally can and have a connected community available, it just feels like an unintended purpose. But it seems like it would work, I say go for it.
The wording he chose was specifically “[misquote]” which comes with the implicit “but I voted blue no matter who because I’m a fucking liberal that supports capital”.
No, it doesn’t come with that. Any of it. You invented an enemy that doesn’t exist.
Someone said: “I think Biden is doing a terrible job and I’m an anarchist.”
The rest is all you making assumptions that most likely aren’t true. It’s as nonsensical as me saying that you just said a communist would have voted in a US federal election, so you’re clearly a social democrat reformist with faith in the bourgeois system and therefore an anti-communist. The extrapolation is tenuous, inflammatory and probably completely wrong.
lemmy.ml has a no-porn rule, I don’t know about the other ones but I haven’t seen a porn community yet.
Is lemmy like or the same thing as mastodon?
It’s a weird question. Like ‘are grapes like oranges’.
Mastodon is a federated (‘Fediverse’ due to use of ActivityPub protocol) microblogging (think twitter) software, same with Pleroma and some others. Admins can host their own website and set their own rules, those websites can interact with other sites.
Lemmy is also a federated (Fediverse) software, but it’s a link aggregator (think reddit). We’re on the lemmy.ml instance, which has its own topic and rules. There are some other ones that aim to be more liberal, and a few that try to be ‘free speech’, but are inevitably flooded by its own echo chamber of the kind of people other places don’t want around.
The internet is the wild west
Yes*. Although not each site on that net wants to be wild. If I’m having a serious discussion on a site where that’s expected (like a science topic forum), why should we tolerate someone with no idea what they’re talking about spamming unconstructive rambling about them hating us? So you inevitably do get communities and social circles that do make restrictions and enforce them in order to function, even on alleged ‘free speech’ sites. It’s all about finding the right sites, rather than expecting every site to have to listen to everything.
This just comes of as argumentative flaming. They didn’t imply or even suggest they voted (at all), and you’re just springboarding off that assumption to throw off-topic insults and guilt by association, before getting to this absolute troll phrase “You hate the working class and your policy is actively classist”.
Read the lemmy.ml instance rules. Even just the first two.
oh no! anyway…
The irony of using a Top Gear quote is noted.
How long until USA starts parking like in Paris, bumper to bumper [YouTube].
It really depends on how tightly or loosely we want civility to be enforced from above. Should we be removing all insults, or is that just too heavy-handed? That’s a big question, not one I have an answer to, but there are some communities that do say yes, using labels as an insult isn’t acceptable. I suspect lemmy.ml doesn’t want to be that strict, but somewhere like gtio.io that attempts serious discussion might see that boundary as constructive.
‘Brigading’ is when someone gets a group of foreign users to mass-downvote or mass comment on a post. You can confirm this definition with a web search (“brigading forum”). What you’re describing is just low effort insulting (which of course is bad and not really acceptable on lemmy.ml in my opinion)
It’s exactly like calling someone a commie. A dumb unconstructive slur. If you’re doing that on a site where liberals are expected to be rejected offensively, like lemmygrad or chapo or leftypol, then sure, but lemmy.ml isn’t one of those places.
Yeah, I found that one interesting, because my first thought was that it just shifts the pollution to someone else.
Some people have situations where they need a car, they can’t just use a bike or train yet. Our societies are designed that way. So I would agree with them, give the car to someone else to avoid them buying a new car. That hopefully will lower the numbers of new cars produced for those people who practically require cars.
Hmm… I’m assuming that claim is trying to say the petrol emissions of the car (or other polutants) over 1000 miles is as much as it takes to manufacture a bike. (If my guess is wrong, then the rest of this logic will be wrong haha)
If that’s true, then I see us having these choices:
Use car, drive [x],000 miles until we can’t use it, then manufacture a bicycle and use it.
Manufacture a bicycle and use it immediately.
Both options require that bicycle be manufactured eventually, so unless:
The bicycle would need to be replaced/majorly-repaired before the car would drive 1000 miles
The pollution cost to manufacture a bicycle becomes hugely less by the time we would drive 1000 miles
then the second option is [cost of making a bike] and the first option is [cost of making a bike + cost of driving before the car broke]. The manufacture of the bike is a sunk cost that I assume is inevitable, so you might as well just not use the petrol if it’s just for the sake of using up the car.
note: the whole scenario has simplifications and of course assumes a bike is acceptable to replace the car, like you’re not transporting 5 people and shopping for a week ;)
I completely disagree. In fact, ‘freedom of speech’ is not why I use Lemmy instances as opposed to other sites. I haven’t been banned from any reddit-like site. It’s also not why I use PeerTube. And based on what I’ve seen, 'free speech ’ isn’t the main reason why people use Pixelfed/Mastodon/Pleroma. Most of the millions moving to Mastodon aren’t doing it because they or their friends were banned or censored. The following points apply just as much to those platforms as they do Lemmy:
Even your implicit argument of different rules/moderation isn’t the main reason I use Lemmy’s federation. Federation allows small communities with different communities, different moderation and different softwares to cross-pollinate. This is extremely useful for social media platforms where popularity is (let’s generalize) necessary, and we don’t have the first mover advantage like reddit.
In small communities this helps them stay alive. I’ve been on sites that have died. It’s not fun! That’s one thing federation solves for me.
Having been a moderator for many highly-liberal (as in liberty, like ‘freedom of speech’) communities, you’ll understand what I mean when I say not all speech is worth reading, even if there is value in letting people be allowed to say it. So, you are right in that federation has an appeal for ‘freeze peach’ idealists. Wolfballs exists and federates, despite their users being banned from the most popular instances. Lemmygrad didn’t want to listen to the neo-nazis who were taking advantage of Wolfballs’s freedoms. So due to federation, Wolfballs still have a platform and community, and Lemmygrad don’t have to waste their time scrolling through it, while both communities have access to other less-political federated instances. That’s a real scenario that happened. Not some idealistic what-if.