• @erioque@lemmy.ml
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    • DuckDuckGo is a honey pot produced by G**gle for privacy kiddies.
    • USA authority can decrypt T*r network by military technology going more than 50 years ahead of civil.
    • L*mmy devs made le**y to brainwash Americans into killing capitalism.
    • G*d is dead.
    • I’ll get miracle p*wer after 666 downvotes.
  • Dragon
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    I believe that conspirators push outlandish conspiracies to distract from real ones. For example Alex Jones could be CIA.

  • @Lunacy@lemmy.ml
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    There is a very interesting article written by Snowden dealing with this topic.

    https://edwardsnowden.substack.com/p/conspiracy-pt1

    The greatest conspiracies are open and notorious — not theories, but practices expressed through law and policy, technology, and finance. Counterintuitively, these conspiracies are more often than not announced in public and with a modicum of pride. They’re dutifully reported in our newspapers; they’re bannered onto the covers of our magazines; updates on their progress are scrolled across our screens — all with such regularity as to render us unable to relate the banality of their methods to the rapacity of their ambitions.

    The party in power wants to redraw district lines. The prime interest rate has changed. A free service has been created to host our personal files. These conspiracies order, and disorder, our lives; and yet they can’t compete for attention with digital graffiti about pedophile Satanists in the basement of a DC pizzeria.

  • @AnOrdinaryDog@lemmy.ml
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    Here’s a few:

    • Sections of the CIA under the direction of CIA director Alan Dulles conspired to assassinate JFK and cover up the plot. Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy.
    • Julian Assange has been persecuted for several years and spent years in solitary confinement with the use of fabricated and trumped up charges in order to punish him for wikileaks and terrorise others who would think of doing something similar, and to create a chilling effect on journalists. The CIA also plotted to assassinate him, but the plot was not carried out.
    • Major oil companies including Exxon have well known since at least the 1970’s how devastating climate change is and will be, and have used their advanced knowledge to devise a long-running propaganda campaign to deny and obfuscate the risks, while shaping politics to avoid any action on climate that would threaten their business model.
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    Please remember to follow lemmy’s and this community’s rules while discussing sensitive topics like this, I suppose many theories could offend someone but no holocaust denial etc, thanks

  • @TheAnonymouseJoker@lemmy.ml
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    03 years ago

    In a chatroom yesterday, I typed this comment:

    Microsoft and Google have an iron grip on kids since junior classes these days. Facebook ecosystem covers the social aspect. Amazon gets the purchases. Twitter gets the political ideology tracked and minds shaped towards either of the dichotomy.

    Add Snapchat and Reddit alongside Facebook ecosystem, and add to that the Western black information news media, and you have an almost complete summary of their propaganda machine.

        • @AnOrdinaryDog@lemmy.ml
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          03 years ago

          What?

          What about the conspiracy to commit a military coup in Chile in the 1970’s and install a right-wing dictatorship to suppress the left?

          What about the conspiracy to fabricate a cassus belli against Iraq in 2001- 2003 to invade the country under the pretext of a menace of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?

          What about mass surveillance via the internet?

          What about the holocaust?

          There are obviously true conspiracy theories, many are widely believed by the left and many are even public record at this point.

          • @ChinaNumberOne@lemmy.ml
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            What about the conspiracy to commit a military coup in Chile in the 1970’s and install a right-wing dictatorship to suppress the left?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about the conspiracy to fabricate a cassus belli against Iraq in 2001- 2003 to invade the country under the pretext of a menace of proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about mass surveillance via the internet?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            What about the holocaust?

            not a conspiracy theory, it’s simply true

            reported and blocked

            • EvanM
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              Thank you for the report, unless I am misunderstanding he is saying these “theories” are the truth, given the context. Could have been worded better, but in this part

              There are obviously true conspiracy theories, many are widely believed by the left and many are even public record at this point.

              I think he is saying these are true even if some people call them theories. I interpret the thread as

              Only right wingers believe in conspiracy theories?

              yes

              I disagree, I believe all these to be true

              • @AnOrdinaryDog@lemmy.ml
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                Yes absolutely all these conspiracy theories are true. I’m not a peddler of holocaust denial, I simply just don’t buy that “being false” is a pre-requisite for a narrative to be a conspiracy theory.

                All of these facts started off as contested and disbelieved by large parts of various publics.

                The US’s involvement in the coup in Chile was certainly deduced by many Chileans and others outside Chile the day coup happened, thanks to a good understanding of the nature of the structure of US imperialism in latin america. However, there was little hard evidence at the time and US involvement was kept secret and denied by the US establishment and media. The fact that US military and intelligence agencies were intimately involved in the plotting and material support for the coup d’état was denied, covered up and obfuscated.

                It was a conspiracy, and Chileans and others who said the US was involved were communicating a theory about a secret plot by the powerful, a conspiracy theory that was objectively true, but not accepted by the mainstream. Now it is widely accepted as historical fact.

                The existence of weapons of mass-destruction in Saddam Hussein’s Iraq was a hotly contested issue. The right campaigned to have it accepted as a fact, and their campaign was supported by much of the mainstream media in the United States, Britain, Australia and other allied countries. This involved the strategic leaking and revealing of reports from intelligence agencies that were designed to support the narrative that Iraq held a secret stash of weapons.

                The anti-war left fought back with claims that this campaign was based on lies, that it had the goal of manufacturing consent for an illegal invasion. We claimed that Bush, his administration, Blair, his administration, and the military and intelligence agencies were conspiring to start an illegal war under false pretexts. This was a conspiracy theory. UN weapons inspectors denied the weapons existed, but the Bush administration cast doubt on their credibility and pointed to their own fabricated evidence that weapons existed.

                In the end, the truth of the conspiracy was revealed bit by bit as the occupying armies in Iraq failed to turn up any evidence of the secret weapons.

                The narrative of mass-surveillance on the internet emerged from the world of conspiracy theories in a similar way. First as concerns, then suspicions, then allegations, before finally becoming mainstream with the Snowden revelations. Even now there are many, perhaps a majority, who will look at you wide-eyed with disbelief if you try to explain the extent to which our activities online are monitored, recorded and monetized. Some will dismiss you: “you’re just a conspiracy theorist!”

                But we live in a complex world, with different groups and forces in conflict with eachother. Groups often engage in conspiracies to achieve their goals, and conspiracies often must remain clandestine for some time up to and after their execution to be successful. This means that those seeking the truth about conspiracies will sometimes have to construct a conspiracy theory about the facts at hand, like a detective putting together the clues of an unsolved case. And like a detective who has multiple suspects in an unsolved murder, there will emerge multiple competing conspiracy theories around any conspiracy. It is in the pursuit of truth, the appearance of evidence that conspiracy theories are revealed as truth or not.

                And so it is not wise to dismiss conspiracy theories as implicitly right-wing. To do so would give a pass to the powerful to engage in conspiracy without scrutiny.