Who campaigns with me along these lines, and helps set ourselves apart from metaverses and other such shallow zuckercrap?

    • smallcirclesOP
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      12 years ago

      Fediverse might be Web4 in situations where it makes sense to highlight technological evolutionary iterations of the web. And if you consider Web3 to be the (failed) Semantic Web - where the 3.0 was first introduced - then it makes sense too. The Fediverse is then the Social (Semantic) Web, as it based on Linked Data open standards (ActivityStreams / ActivityPub). But in doing so you also needlessly set yourself up for techno-ideological ‘warfare’ to claim that turf. It can be useful. It can be logical. But I wonder if it is worth the fight.

      Web0, introduced by Aral Balkan in reaction to Web3’s ‘blockchain-override’, is also putting emphasis on a technical characteristic. But along a different dimension than evolutionary versioning, namely “web made simple again” and hence for everyone (note: simple != easy).

      Peopleverse is yet another dimension: the human aspect. It is a ‘unique selling point’ and almost unclaimed space in the corporate onslaught that the normal web has become. And certainly wrt what the Metaverse aims to be… some cyberpunk corporate-controlled world. No, thank you :)

      The most important thing we have on the Fediverse, imho, is our culture. And that culture is determined by everyone’s interaction. I tooted about this this morning in reaction to something I wrote on Fediverse Town:

      Be careful what you preach. Those promoting the #Fediverse to the world beyond should be well aware that that the current culture spun up by all fedizens together, are what makes fedi such a worthwhile place to be.

      And that this culture is the primary ‘weapon’ in fending off unwanted forces. How we build and integrate our apps is important too, but only in a supportive manner.

      Protecting and fostering our culture collaboratively is key to Fediverse’s health and future.

      There will be challenges to the Fediverse to overcome in the future, and I feel that for the most part that ‘versioning the web’ will play at best only a minor role in solving them :)

  • realcaseyrollins
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    12 years ago

    We’re the original Metaverse. Big Tech knows what we’re building is sustainable and that’s why their building their own versions.

      • @Liwott@lemmy.ml
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        22 years ago

        Tbh this sense of “we are even further in the future” sounds a bit crackpot. I like “Fediverse” :) Also I don’t like the trend of changing name

  • Vegafjord eo
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    12 years ago

    Love the idea! By the way, does humane tech have conferences? If so, I think it would be a great way to mobilize the lemmy community.

    • smallcirclesOP
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      22 years ago

      Thank you. No, not really. Atm the community is not as active as it used to be. But I am very active on the fediverse :)