Hey, Lemmy. I’ve been using the blockchain-based video streaming service Odysee as a YouTube backup for a while now, where I run the PIF archive channel, RandomWolf.

I was reading Wikipedia, and it says that the platform is often used by the far right, mainly because of its “free speech” guidelines. However, the channels I am seeing are fine.

What do you guys think? Is it safe, or is it just a clone of Rumble?

And, while you’re at it, can you tell me what you think of Mental Outlaw?

My channel is on YouTube, PeerTube and Odysee, in case anyone has an interest in the niche.

  • QuentinCallaghan
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    In terms of usability and being open source it’s a good platform. However the libertarian ideology behind Odysee shows, as it has blockchain and the founders believe in free speech absolutism. The result? As many have said, COVID deniers, Nazis, QAnon folks and all kinds of shitty people have made Odysee their hub. Compared to BitChute, Odysee seems to have more varied content (gaming, tech, artists, music and so on) so it’s not 100 % whackos, but they considerably degrade the platform.

    As a result of free speech absolutism, there is too lax moderation, if no moderation at all. Many liberal creators such as Sam Seder and David Pakman get all kinds of hateful comments to their videos, and nothing is done to them. Another factor degrading the platform, not making it attractive for more left-leaning/progressive folks.

  • Rentlar
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    1510 months ago

    Good tech, blockchain is meh, search results are OK but not great, but yeah way too much far-right stuff for me to stick around much.

    I queue up a video or two on Odysee of a channel I like, then once those two finish the autoplay instantly takes me to AMERICAN CHANNEL where some guy goes on about how the world is out to get them. I would much rather auto play to something on the same channel or at least something from the same genre, the same language or at the very least some similarity in title.

  • @altair222@beehaw.org
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    Hate it. They have absolutely no moderation and quite heavy and violent antisemitist, racist (against SEA indians/black people) and transphobia rhetoric under almost every video.

    Mental outlaw has “jews are pursuing a conspiracy” and “trans people are in on it” on his youtube channel as well, so just imagine whats its like on his lbry

    • Hellfire103OP
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      010 months ago

      Ah, well shit. I believe you, but could you give me a link, for proof?

  • @peeonyou@lemmy.ml
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    1110 months ago

    It’s great in theory, but they need to give people a way to self-censor shit they don’t want to see. I don’t need to see any videos with blatant racism and weird ass conspiracy crap. If it could tag things that would be great.

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    1010 months ago

    At first it seemed like a cool idea, especially being open source and having a lot of people I watched on YouTube.

    But as time went on I realized it was a complete cesspool of hate. Not only on some very bad videos, but especially on comments. Even videos that seemed completely absent of controversial topics somehow had to have some icky comment.

    I’m sorry, but your freedom ends where mine begins.

    I then completely gave up on it, especially since my distaste for anything crypto only grew bigger since then. The Linux Experiment made a blog post about leaving Odysee some time ago. I agree with everything written on it.

    I love Mental Outlaw’s content, btw! I’ve been watching him for a couple years now.

    • @altair222@beehaw.org
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      810 months ago

      dont know why but mental outlaw has a weird anti-semitist community surrounding him and it has not been addressed by him.

      • whou
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        610 months ago

        Yeah, for some time I’ve realized some weird “takes” here and there but nothing that abnormal. I haven’t seen every video of his, so I might be wrong. His comment section on Odysee was absolute filth though.

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    A massive hateful shit hole. I loved it back then but unfortunately it is full of weird conspiracy theories and hateful crap

  • @roho@lemmy.ml
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    imo, Odysee has better search options than Rumble.

    The idea being that when you have the desktop client, you’re actually seeding the video’s onto the network yourself( LBRY.com) i like. But since the odysee website/html-frontend was introduced, the desktop client/seeding technology became way overlooked.

    The video streaming performance has become much bettter, but lately it has all kind of commercials built in. I wonder how much is actually still based on the initial ‘torrent’-idea. I wonder what kind of data are they selling, in order to store all the content. Because i don’t believe the initial ‘torrent’ seeding idea by clients is what makes lbry so fast.

    Content wise, it is home to quite some content creators which came from YouTube because they were censored. YouTube has a political agenda, and as a result the content there is void of fringe opinion. Most censored information from fringe scientists etc i am able to find on odysee👍

    (edit) The amount of nonsense Dutch politics have been giving out about Covid jabs may have been detected more if censorship of critics wasn’t so intrusive. e.g. the minister of healthcare litterally claiming ‘tested to the bone’ and ‘safe and effective’ while the phase 2 and 3 trials were still ongoing🤨And now those same politicians are all about censoring misinformation… The irony.